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Yahoo! Japan's translation service is telling evidence of problems facing Japan with languages, IT and beyond

Believe me, I have nothing, in particular, against Yahoo Japan Corporation. I even admire its chairman, Mr. Masayoshi Son, for his exceptional entrepreneurship this ethnic Korean has demonstrated since the mid-1990s. I just thought Yahoo Japan's E-to-J translation service was a good example of what is going on in this country.

If you try a Yahoo! search on the Yahoo! Japan's website using a search string "murakami ballpark seizure" then you will see the TokyoFreePress's book review dealing with Ryu Murakami's "Hanto wo ideyo," or "Leaving the Peninsula behind" in my tentative translation, at the top of the search results.

On that page you can ask for an automatic Japanese translation of the book review. Ten seconds after you click on the clickable words "translation into Japanese," Yahoo! Japan gives you a parallel translation of the TFP piece.

I'm taking the liberty to quote the first several paragraphs below here on the assumption that Yahoo! Japan won't find it insulting, just like it took the liberty of having the translation software of Cross Language Inc. destroy my sentences, perhaps on the same assumption.


(Note) You may not have a character set on your PC that support these Japanese characters, but if you have one, that won't make any difference in the face of the chimp's language.


Ryu Murakami's fictitious scenario is more realistic than media's factual stories
村上隆の架空のシナリオは、メディアの事実の物語より現実的です Tuesday, May 10 2005 @ 06:44 AM
2005年5月10日火曜日@午前6時44分

Contributed by: Y.Yamamoto
貢献しました:Y.Yamamoto

(What it takes to be a first-rate writer)
(一流の作家であるには必要であるもの)
When I was in my teens and early-20s, I was a book worm. And my reading included Japanese literary works. Around the time the award-winning crap by Shintaro Ishihara, "Season of the sun," came out, I realized that it would be a sheer waste of time to read fictions authored by contemporary Japanese writers, even including Kenzaburo Oe, although the Nobel laureate could have been a sole exception. Ever since I haven't read a single novel made in Japan. Hence all I had known about Ryu Murakami was his name, until I somehow came across his most recent book, "Hanto wo ideyo", or "Leaving the Peninsula behind" in my tentative translation.
私が私の10代と20年代前半にいたとき、私は本虫でした。そして、私の読書は、日本の文芸作品を含みました。石原慎太郎(「太陽の季節」)による受賞したナンセンスが出たころ、私はノーベル賞受賞者が唯一の例外であることができたけれども、それが現代の日本の作家(大江健三郎さえ含む)によって書かれるフィクションを読む時間の全くの浪費であると理解しました。それ以来ずっと、私は日本で製作される一つの小説も読みませんでした。それゆえに、あるいは、私の仮の翻訳で「ペニンシュラを残し」て、私がどうにか、彼のごく最近の本(「ハントウwo ideyo」)に出くわすまで、私が村上隆について知っていた全ては彼の名前でした。

In my opinion every top-notch writer is gifted with two different qualities, i.e.:
私の意見で、すなわち、あらゆる超一流の作家は、2つの異なる特性の才に恵まれています:
1) Analytical/inductive ability which gives him a good insight into what we really are and where we are now, and
1)彼に我々が本当にそうであることに対する良い洞察をする、そして、我々が現在いる、分析的/帰納的な能力、そして、
2) Imaginative/intuitive ability which gives him a good foresight of where we are heading.
2)彼に我々が率いているところの良い先見性を与える、想像的な/直観的な能力。

Where there is a climate in which most professional writers opt to prohibit themselves from facing taboo issues head on, as is the case with this nation, a certain amount of imaginative or intuitive ability, alone, won't produce anything but a predictable, boring and empty figment. This holds true with both fiction writers and nonfiction writers, including journalists. This is why I haven't read a single book authored by a contemporary Japanese, fiction or non-fiction, in the last four decades. And this is why I buy a newspaper or two at the newsstand every morning only in anticipation of the faintest clues to what is really going on.
大部分のプロの作家が問題が率いる化粧タブーから彼ら自身を禁止することを選ぶ気候がある所で、この国で本当であるように、ある程度の想像的であるか直観的な能力は、単独で、予想できて、退屈で、空の空想以外の何も生じません。これは、ジャーナリストを含むフィクションライターとノンフィクションライターと有効です。そういうわけで、私は、この40年に、現代の日本語、フィクションまたはノンフィクションによって書かれる一つの本も読みませんでした。そして、これは私が本当に続いていることに最もかすかな手掛かりだけを予想して毎朝新聞売場で新聞または2を買う理由です。

But now, I have realized, with a pleasant surprise, that even in today's Japan, there are a few first-rate fiction writers, such as Ryu Murakami, who are gifted in two ways.
しかし、今は、良い感じの思いがけないことで、私は今日の日本でさえ、2、3の一流のフィクションライター(例えば村上隆)がいると理解しました。そして、その人は2つの方向の才能があります。

(Freewheel imagination backed by solid grasp of facts)
(事実の強烈な把握によって背負われるフリーホイール想像力)
Since imagination goes hand-in-hand with accurate grasp of factual things, the Murakami's future scenario is always backed by his factual knowledge throughout this book. He could make his fictitious story undeniably realistic and compelling primarily because his imaginative/intuitive ability is at play there. But at the same time, he wouldn't have come up with the masterful scenario, had it not been for his analytical/inductive ability applied to its factual aspects. For one thing he is very specific about figures, such as unemployment rate, suicide rate, divorce rate, homeless rate, crime rate, consumption tax (VAT) rate, savings-to-disposable income rate, etc. Here the former businessman, that I am, even feel as though I share the same crystal-ball with the author.
想像力が事実のものの正確な把握で手に手をとったようになるので、村上の将来のシナリオはこの本を通して彼の事実の知識によって常に背負われます。主に彼の想像的な/直観的な能力が遊びでそこにあるので、彼は彼の架空の話を疑う余地なく現実的で非常に魅力的にすることができました。しかし、同時に、彼は堂に入ったシナリオに追いつきませんでした、それがその事実の面に印加される彼の分析的/帰納的な能力のために、ありませんでした。一つには、彼は数字、例えば失業率、自殺率、離婚率、家がない率、犯罪率、消費税(VAT)率、savings-to-disposableな収入率、その他について非常にはっきりしていますHere、私がそうである元ビジネスマンは感じさえします、私が同じことを共有するけれども、著者と予言してください。

It's also noteworthy that Murakami's style is lined with his obsession with minute details about these fictitious characters (there are more than 140 of them) as well as things surrounding them. He is particular about details because details are where imaginative ability meets analytical ability. In order to flesh out the whole plot, he must have done a time-consuming and meticulous research work before actually getting started with these 24 exciting and shocking episodes.
村上のスタイルが彼らを囲んでいるものと同様にこれらの架空の人物(彼らのうちの140人以上が、あります)について分詳細についての彼の強迫観念で線をひかれることは、また、注目に値します。詳細が想像的な能力が分析的能力に会うところであるので、彼は詳細にうるさいです。全部の計画を肉づけするために、彼は実際にこれらの24の刺激的で衝撃的なエピソードで始まる前に、時間のかかって非常に注意深い研究努力をするにちがいありませんでした。

(Mirror images of Japan don't tell/foretell anything)
(日本の鏡像は、何も言わない/予告しません)
In the U.S., and Europe alike, there have been a great number of self-proclaimed experts in Japanese literature, or any other things Japanese. And most of these Japanologists have inherited the traditional, stereotypical views of Japan from "japonisme" (word coined by Philippe Burty in 1876). We keep saying here that Japan is a very unique culture and we are a very different people from others. And those neo-japonistes are untiringly echoing the same notion. This misguided perception on both sides has not only hindered the real understanding of what we really are, but also been amplified over time with the perception gap further widened. On our part we are even more obsessed today with the idea that we are totally homogeneous among ourselves and heterogeneous to Westerners in part because it now seems to be the key to gaining over a certain understanding and acceptance abroad to cater to the stereotypical views of the Japanese by stressing our uniqueness.
同様にアメリカとヨーロッパでは、日本の文学または他のどのもの日本語ものたくさんの自ら主張した専門家が、いました。そして、大部分のこれらの日本問題研究家は、「japonisme」(1876年にP・ビュルティによって造り出される知らせ)から、日本の伝統的な、型にはまった眺めを受け継ぎました。我々は日本が非常にユニークな培養組織であるとここで言い続けます、そして、我々は他と非常に異なる民族です。そして、それらの新japonistes は、同じ概念と疲れを知らず同じことを言っています。両側の上のこの誤って導かれた認識は、我々が本当にそうであることの本当の理解をじゃまするだけでなくて、広がって更なる認識のギャップで、時間とともに拡大されもしました。それが現在我々のユニークさを強調することによって日本人の型にはまった見方の要求を満たすために特定の理解と受理について海外で利益を得ることの鍵であるようであるので、我々の部分の上で、我々は我々がある程度私たちだけの間で全く均一で西国人に異質であるという考えで今日さらにより取りつかれています。


If you have a certain amount of Japanese literacy, this must be self-explanatory, but in case you are not Japanese-literate, I tell you this is as though you gave an English-Japanese dictionary to a chimp. It's really appalling to know this is what we have achieved here after all the effort to develop language translation systems in the last 3 decades.

Since the days I first fell in love with the computer some 40 years ago, I've never gotten hooked on Information Technology, as such, because IT is nothing more than a tool. To me the computer is also something to be likened to a mirror that precisely reflects what its user is, judging from what he is using it for as a tool.

Likewise, a language, mother language or foreign, is a tool with which to communicate thoughts and feelings among each other. As I argued in the September 1 TFP article "English education in Japan," learning a foreign language cannot be a goal in itself. In a nation where the people are not used to forming their own opinions using their own brains, learning how to use the tool of communication is totally useless. That doesn't help a bit. Instead, it only mirrors what these millions of me-too English learners really are.

I've just singled out here how my book review was destroyed by the Yahoo! Japan's translation system. But since one and the same system is always at work on the web-pages for search results, every time you feed the ape with any English sentence, he will just take a bite and chew it up.

You may say I'm just nitpicking over an unimportant thing. But as a one who has had a lot of experience working on computer-aided language translation, I'm sure wherever you let a computer system destroy languages, both source and "target" languages at the same time, the way the Yahoo! Japan's system does, it's not only the computer system, but the entire System that is dysfunctional. Likewise it's not only the languages but also the entire society that has been destroyed.

I think it's much more symptomatic of the root problem underlying the nation's disease than it looks at first glance. That's why I've volunteered to point this out.

Yahoo Japan Corporation is one of the few respectable Internet service companies in Japan. So it's all the more disappointing to see the disastrous quality of its online translation service. Japan's Internet users are equally at fault because they seem to think the quality is more or less acceptable, or it just can't be helped.

I believe the Japanese, 13 centuries ago, or even 50 years ago, to a lesser degree, were much more innovative than we are now, and capable of thinking/feeling/acting on their own.

Or am I just too preoccupied with the idea that under the 1955 System, the political sandmen (coined words by Ian Buruma) in the government and the media have sprinkled too much sand all over the nation?

Many still argue that Japan will reemerge as an economic superpower sooner or later and to that end, its aspiration to become an IT superpower will play a pivotal role. They go on to say that Japan should also be able to communicate with the international community "even" more effectively. But in all likelihood, these are all pipe dreams, unless Japan comes to before long.

Talking about the Murakami's most recent novel, latimes.com, on May 30, carried an analytical report titled "Japan Focuses on One Enemy at a Time" in which the writer has Ryu Murakami endorse his stereotypical view of Japan by citing "Get Out of the Peninsula," his way of translating the title of the novel. But in fact, Murakami's way of thinking is miles apart from the staff writer's.

That the fiction writer chose a North Korean commando unit, rather than Chinese, as the invaders of the southern Japanese island of Kyushu doesn't mean the author thought North Korea is Japan's public enemy No. 1. The novelist didn't even have China in mind as the primary threat to Japan. Rather, he sees our public enemy No. 1 within ourselves, as we are increasingly looking like a horde of zombies at the Yahoo Dome.

This indicates that the staff writer hadn't read this almost untranslatable novel himself, and that many other Japanese, like those quoted alongside of Murakami in the latimes article, still keep on misleading the western media into a stereotypical and false perception of the Japanese. And this is how we are "effectively" communicating with the western people.

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